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                        to be a lot excitement occurring now regarding =
Guy=20
                        Riekeman's appointment to Life University. I've =
also=20
                        read that enrollments are starting to increase. =
Life is=20
                        like a giant shiny carnivorous plant. On the =
outside it=20
                        looks great, clean buildings, manicured lawns, =
but once=20
                        in students are trapped in a dangerous cult. I =
don't=20
                        think students really appreciate how dangerous =
the place=20
                        is. In 2001 one of the many reasons CCE revoked =
their=20
                        accreditation was because they don't teach =
students to=20
                        diagnose patients accurately, they are prone to=20
                        overutilization and treat everyone except =
emergency=20
                        cases. This is very dangerous because =
misdiagnosis=20
                        delays medical treatment-often causing great =
injury or=20
                        death. For example, in the case of cancer, a few =
weeks=20
                        of treatment could mean the difference between =
life or=20
                        death.<BR><BR>Life's clinical training is so =
poorly=20
                        sequenced that students have been adjusting =
children for=20
                        months before taking their first course in =
pediatric=20
                        diagnosis. I believe that the purpose of Life =
University=20
                        is to legitimize health care fraud. =
Indoctrination of=20
                        students is facilitated by delaying the =
placement of=20
                        diagnosis courses so that they learn to think =
that=20
                        health care fraud is legitimate. Just recently =
there was=20
                        a case where a Sherman grad chiropractor in =
Pensylvannia=20
                        named Gallagher killed a patient because she =
told her to=20
                        stop taking medication and treated her =
subluxations=20
                        believing that this would cure her diseases. She =
was=20
                        sentenced to prison for health care fraud =
causing the=20
                        death of a patient. Life also has encouraged =
students to=20
                        tell patients to discontinue essential =
medication. The=20
                        indoctrination is so bad that according to one =
former=20
                        faculty member two students have died at Life's =
campus=20
                        because they substituted medical care for =
chiropractic=20
                        care. Robert Menendez died from a heart attack =
just=20
                        outside the Life U library because he did not =
seek=20
                        treatment for arteriosclerosis. Julian Ho died =
in his=20
                        apartment from untreated diabetes. Ironically, =
Life=20
                        persuaded Ho's father to start a memorial=20
                        scholarship-which would just promote more=20
                        deaths!<BR><BR>Instructor John Grostic ignored a =
chronic=20
                        cough and ended up dying from lung cancer =
despite an=20
                        early warning to see a MD from another faculty=20
                        member.<BR><BR>Further, Life is one of the many=20
                        chiropractic institutions that have been caught =
making=20
                        unsupported claims about chiropractic in =
admissions=20
                        literature posted to the =
internet.<BR><BR>Diagnosis is=20
                        not optional, there is no way to diagnose a =
mechanical=20
                        problem of the spine without taking a patient's =
entire=20
                        medical condition into account. Chiropractic =
analysis is=20
                        not validated for diagnosis.<BR><BR>Students =
would be=20
                        well advised to learn from Gallagher and stay =
away from=20
                        chiropractic institutions like Life that promote =
health=20
                        care fraud by not diagnosing patient complaints. =
Now=20
                        that the CCE has been beaten back by Life what =
assurance=20
                        is there that Life will ever take them =
seriously? I see=20
                        none.<BR><BR>I had my doubts that CCE would ever =
make=20
                        Life come into compliance with their standards. =
My main=20
                        reason was because so many of their college's =
appear to=20
                        be violators yet have good standing with the =
agency. For=20
                        example, CCE requires all programs to show good=20
                        curriculum integration. This is defined as all =
diagnosis=20
                        and basic sciences courses preceeding the =
clinical=20
                        internship patient experiences. However, if you =
review=20
                        the curriculums of the chiropractic college's =
50% of=20
                        them place diagnosis courses like differential=20
                        diagnosis, pediatrics, obstetrics and gynecology =
after=20
                        the internship. From the standpoint of a cult=20
                        indoctronation, this is necessary to keep =
students from=20
                        information that would contradict their =
indoctrination.=20
                        However it is a clear violation of CCE =
standards. Court=20
                        documents state that 50% of the CCE's programs =
having=20
                        2/3 of the students endorse this mentality. So I =
wonder=20
                        what the real reason the CCE decided to target =
Life was?=20
                        Perhaps the DECE organization was right and it =
was=20
                        motivated by competition or perhaps the CCE =
didn't like=20
                        the complaints it was receiving from =
dissatisfied Life=20
                        students at the time.<BR><BR>Even more recently, =
the=20
                        Journal of Chiropractic Education published an =
article=20
                        showing that 50% of the DC programs make =
misleading=20
                        claims in their admissions web sites. Most of =
these=20
                        programs belong to the 2/3 listed above. =
Something very=20
                        interesting I discovered was that earlier CCE =
standards=20
                        required admissions publications to be accurate. =
However=20
                        this requirement has been dropped from the =
current=20
                        standards. Students attending programs which do =
not meet=20
                        the promises of their admissions literature have =
grounds=20
                        to sue these programs for breach of contract. =
Imagine=20
                        the repercussions if these 2/3 of students =
brought suit=20
                        against their colleges?<BR><BR>Still, it should =
be=20
                        interesting to see how Reichman gets along with =
the Sid=20
                        Williams clan. Perhaps he burned enough bridges =
with=20
                        Palmer to jump ship and join the Dynamic =
Essentials=20
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                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>DATE</FONT></TD>
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                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>CONDITION</FONT></TD>
                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>DETAILS</FONT></TD></TR>
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                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>1980s</FONT></TD>
                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>Heidi Bivens (LIFE =
student-early=20
                              quarter)</FONT></TD>
                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>stroke and permanent=20
                              paralysis</FONT></TD>
                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>This DC student and =
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                              was permanently paralyzed when an intern=20
                              disregarded a medical warning and =
manipulated her=20
                              neck, causing a stroke. LIFE fought her =
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                              was represented by James Wilson of =
Marietta=20
                              Georgia. Case settled for undisclosed=20
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                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>1980s</FONT></TD>
                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>Bruce Emery (LIFE=20
                            faculty)</FONT></TD>
                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>heart attack</FONT></TD>
                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>Died from untreated heart =
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                              one year after retiring from Life=20
                              University.</FONT></TD></TR>
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                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>1980s</FONT></TD>
                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>Neil Rabin (LIFE =
"chiropractic=20
                              philosophy" instructor)</FONT></TD>
                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>congenital hip dysplasia, =
breast=20
                              cancer</FONT></TD>
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suits=20
                              including: removed a child's cast for hip=20
                              dysplasia and caused deformity, delayed a=20
                              patient's treatment for breast=20
cancer.</FONT></TD></TR>
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                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>1985</FONT></TD>
                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>Hubert =
Hitchcock</FONT></TD>
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                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>Died from undiagnosed =
lung=20
                              cancer.</FONT></TD></TR>
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                              leading to delay in treatment for lung =
cancer=20
                              which proved fatal.</FONT></TD></TR>
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                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>11/3/1993</FONT></TD>
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                              student-final term)</FONT></TD>
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heart=20
                              disease</FONT></TD>
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propaganda that=20
                              medicine only effective for emergency =
conditions=20
                              and did not seek treatment for =
hypertension which=20
                              progressed and proved fatal. In his final =
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school=20
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                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>12/3/1996</FONT></TD>
                            <TD><FONT size=3D2>Julian Luke Ho (LIFE=20
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warnings=20
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symptoms of=20
                              diabetes evaluated. Died from new onset =
untreated=20
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                        Randall. Actually I have a better understanding =
of the=20
                        Life University curriculum from 1992-1996 than =
most=20
                        because of the hundreds of hours I have spent=20
                        investigating the issue and many experts, works =
I have=20
                        read and experts I have consulted. Some of what =
I write=20
                        about was documented by a CCE site visit =
team:<BR><BR><A=20
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                        =
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                        the CCE accreditor recently admitted in a letter =
to me=20
                        and copied to the US Department of Education =
that the=20
                        death issue is valid.<BR><BR>If I wasn't sure of =
this=20
                        issue I would never expose myself to a lawsuit =
by=20
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Botnick has a=20
                        very light understanding about the curriculum at =
Life=20
                        University. Yes, they don't prescribe any =
medicine, what=20
                        they do is pure chiropractic, that's =
it!<BR><BR>Actually=20
                        you are confusing treatment with diagnosis. A =
big issue=20
                        here is that the school was teaching students =
not to=20
                        diagnose patient complaints properly and make =
competent=20
                        referrals. Instead of being taught proper =
differential=20
                        diagnosis, students were taught to apply a =
boilerplate=20
                        diagnostic system that falsely diagnosed patient =

                        complaints. This was done in order to further a=20
                        dangerous insurance fraud scam taught by Sid =
Williams=20
                        through his Dynamic Essentials practice =
management=20
                        company. By institutionalizing the scam, =
Williams hoped=20
                        to assure its legitimacy and make a large market =
for his=20
                        numerous chiropractic related businesses while =
he pulled=20
                        in a fat paycheck himself.<BR><BR><A=20
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=20
                        CCE initially tried to revoke Life's =
accreditation by=20
                        focusing on these violations but was =
counterattacked=20
                        when Life highlighted various technicalities =
designed to=20
                        get them off the hook. After losing an appeal to =
a=20
                        preliminary injunction that restored Life's=20
                        accreditation, CCE got nervous and entered into =
a sealed=20
                        settlment with Life. The really scary thing =
about his is=20
                        that the CCE has so far never addressed the =
thousands of=20
                        unqualified Life graduates who practice without =
the=20
                        minimum level of diagnosis skill expected for=20
                        chiropractic graduates. The US Department of =
Education=20
                        is currently investigating this issue which =
could very=20
                        well prove to be the downfall of the CCE, like =
SCASA=20
                        before it.<BR><BR><A=20
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>&gt;Why=20
                        the body would need biochemical substances if =
the cause=20
                        of the problem has a biomechanical =
origin<BR><BR>This=20
                        incorrectly assumes that the diagnostic system =
taught by=20
                        the school had been validated as a replacement =
for=20
                        established diagnosis. It had not so graduates =
have no=20
                        way of knowing what was the cause of a patient's =

                        complaint. So instead they mislead the patient =
with=20
                        William's con artist balooney about hypothetical =
spinal=20
                        lesions.<BR><BR>&gt;This is tragic to see how=20
                        chiropractic has been deviated to medicine, and =
if we=20
                        don't do anything about it, why should we still =
call=20
                        this profession chiropractic? No, chiropractic =
needs to=20
                        keep its own identity like Dr. Palmer or Dr. =
Gonstead=20
                        used to do and let's stay away from chiropractic =

                        malpractice using medicine.<BR><BR>I think the =
larger=20
                        tragedy is that faculty and students were taught =
a=20
                        system of care that endangers themselves and =
others.=20
                        This unsafe chiropractic identity should not be =
allowed=20
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went to a=20
                        chiropractor i stopped seeing medical doctors. i =
got=20
                        tired of taking the drugs and paying for their =
daughters=20
                        porche's. then when i found chiropractic, i =
found a=20
                        doctor that shared my philosophy. if i die =
because of a=20
                        unknown heart or lung problem, who's fault is =
it? mine,=20
                        because i don't like MD's and refuse to let them =
poke=20
                        and prod me and send me to an endless line of=20
                        "specialists?" or the Chiropractor, because he =
told me=20
                        it was my choice not to seek medical care if i =
didn't=20
                        want to? or is it planned suicide, and can i be =
thrown=20
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made a=20
                        wrong decision because they are human - and =
humans make=20
                        mistakes, and it really isn't the schools=20
                        fault.<BR><BR>and what about all the deaths =
related to=20
                        medical school mistakes? are the medical schools =
to=20
                        blame? or are we expected to believe that in the =
name of=20
                        science, if you die under anesthesia, it's ok. =
because=20
                        after all, it's medicine and well, you were =
warned about=20
                        the 30% chance of death before you went into =
surgery -=20
                        just ask my personal hero, <FONT=20
                        color=3Dyellow>TEXT</FONT>, of ESPN fame who =
died during=20
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not the=20
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bet. what=20
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in=20
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                        transportation department? or the 2 million that =
die of=20
                        hunger, malnutrition and AIDs every year in =
africa.=20
                        would you even care if a chiropractor went over =
there=20
                        and one more died of stroke. you can see the =
newspaper=20
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refuse=20
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endless=20
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because he=20
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chiro=20
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dangerous=20
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DC is=20
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diagnose and=20
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this then=20
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killing a=20
                        patient by telling them that their drugs were=20
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College of=20
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that the=20
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they hurt=20
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deaths=20
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that in=20
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anesthesia, it's=20
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you were=20
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went=20
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who's=20
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best job he=20
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that die=20
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fault is=20
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million=20
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year in=20
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would=20
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treatments but=20
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